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Old 1st Sep 2009, 19:16   #11
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Well, if you're going to add The Elephant Man (American production, American director), I'm taking Brazil back.
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Okay, I agree with some of those already mentioned. Especially Withnail and I, Nil by Mouth and Shawn of the Dead. Also good to see animation being honoured, Col. Here are some of my additions:

The Secret Adventures of Tom Thumb - The most atmospheric animation to date, made by Bristol's Bolex Brothers. If you haven't seen this and enjoy animation in the tradition of Jan Svankmajer then get on it!

Dead Man's Shoes - For Paddy Considine and Toby Kebbell's performances alone.

Gangster Number One - "Look into my fucking eyes!"

Spider - Cronenberg's adaption. Perhaps a little controversial, but I loved it.

...and that's all for now!
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I have some small but significant issues with Dead Man's Shoes. However, Paddy Considine is astonishingly good. Like, early De Niro good.
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I have some small but significant issues with Dead Man's Shoes.
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I have some small but significant issues with Dead Man's Shoes.
I don't know what your issues with it are, but to me it's Shane Meadows weakest and most predictable film by a long way.
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My problems with it really aren't that deep, and would probably sound trivial if I laid them out here. There are just a few moments of visual laziness along the way that undermine the power of certain scenes and take me out of the film.

But I do like the film very much overall. I own a copy and everything. It's just that if I were to recommend it to anyone, and explain why they should see it, my primary selling point would be Paddy Considine, who is just unbelievable. Of course, Stephen Graham is similarly unbelievable in This is England, so whatever shortcomings Shane Meadows may have, directing actors -- or just letting great actors do their job -- is not one of them.
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so whatever shortcomings Shane Meadows may have, directing actors -- or just letting great actors do their job -- is not one of them.
There's a great extra on my DVD of This Is England which shows Meadows creating the characters in improvisational workshops with the actors. That's definitely a strength of his.

One thing I dislike about his films is that all of them climax with an act of brutal violence, which tends to lose its power when repeated routinely.
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One thing I dislike about his films is that all of them climax with an act of brutal violence, which tends to lose its power when repeated routinely.
That may be, but I've only seen three of his films (the other being twentyfourseven), and each viewing was separated by at least a few yours.
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I don't know what your issues with it are, but to me it's Shane Meadows weakest and most predictable film by a long way.
Fair play.

In my opinion it's far stronger than This Is England, which was class, but so thin on plot it was barely even a film. It seemed more of a snapshot of real skin head culture taken by a guy who lived it. Not to take away from the stunning performances, but Turgoose's character just wasn't enough for me. Somers Town was equally as compelling, but again too weak on story for my liking. A Room for Romeo Brass was better than those two films, but the ending was a let down. Very, very corny. Considine's awesome performance once again saved the day with that one. I saw Once Upon a Time in the Midlands at the cinema ages ago. I enjoyed it, but can't remember too much about it. Though it didn't blow me away like Dead Man's Shoes did. I haven't seen Twenty Four Seven to continue my case.

As for predictable; I watched Dead Man's Shoes knowing nothing about it. I hadn't even seen the trailer. Maybe that's why it blew me away so much and would definitely appear in my top 10 British films since '84.

All in all, fanshawe, I couldn't disagree with you more on that!

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There are just a few moments of visual laziness along the way that undermine the power of certain scenes and take me out of the film.
It's certainly a bit ropey. For me it's part of the appeal. There's something very surreal about the whole feel to it. Like it's all happening between the pages of a comic book.

P.s. - In my previous post is the word 'adaption'. It was supposed to be adaptation. I doubt any of you folks give that much of a shit, but this forum has an impressive level of literacy which I strive to emulate...
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Agree with almost all above, but would add:

Peter Greenaway's The Cook, The Thief, His Wife And Her Lover
Mike Leigh's Naked
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