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Old 10th Jan 2007, 14:50   #1
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Default Notes on Posting

This post will be updated now and again to reflect certain views on posting on Palimpsest - in terms of what Palimpers should aim to do to try and keep things as constructive and useful to others as possible.

These are not 'rules' on posting to Palimpsest, just guidance on what might be good to think about before posting. Generally, the moderation policy here is that we trust people to be sensible enough to know what to post when. But areas of confusion have arisen from time to time, and perhaps these notes will help resolve this.

Any updates or additions to these notes will only happen within this particular post, so it is all kept in one place at the top. Any questions can be made by replying to the post.

1. Reading threads before replying to them

It might be a good idea to do this. It helps to stop conversations going round and round in circles for one thing. Most threads aren't so lengthy that it is unfeasible to do so. This really is the preferred option here.

However, there are times when it isn't possible, especially if it is a quick query on a specific matter inside a gigantic thread. Most of the time it doesn't matter of course, because that issue might not have been discussed before. But, if it has been, then it's perfectly reasonable for members aware of the thread's history to post links to where in the thread the matter was discussed.

The 'crime' of posting something repetitive though, is simply nowhere near the Number One offence of...

2. Starting Threads for Things that Already Exist

This is a cardinal sin. If you are sitting down to write a review, before you do, search for the author in question, so you can add your review to that thread. See point 3 for more on this. This keeps everything tidy, and members can find everything about a particular subject in one place. Admin bods can merge threads together if an unecessary thread is created, but it's a pain to do and we'd rather not have to very often.

3. Threads for Authors or Threads for Books?

A most contentious issue, this. The official (I think) Palimp line is that if you are reviewing a book by, or information or a questions about, an author who hasn't been covered before, then you can either start a thread with just the author's name, or one with the name and the book title.

If a thread exists for the author, then that's fine, put the review, information or question there.

If a thread exists for the author with a different book title, put yours there anyway. An admin will soon spot it and change the thread title to be just the author.

There are separate threads out there for authors with different books - these are largely historical and the thread content is often too complicated to merge them. Others will be picked up and merged as they are spotted.

4. Quoting

If you are responding specifically to someone else's post please quote them first. In some threads this is hard as they are being rapidly updated, almost like chat. But most of the time it won't take long to click the 'quote' button on the post you are responding to. It makes everyone else's understanding of your post much better.

5. Continuing Discussions that Admin have asked to Stop

If a thread is going off on a wild tangent it might be the case that an admin dude whisks the posts away for a while while we decide what to do with them. Or, they could just post asking for the conversation to return to the original subject. This is likely to occur when the subject is a contentious one.

Please, please do not bring up that topic again. If it has been removed, or asked to stop, respect that decision. Any posts raising the dead in this was will be swiftly deleted. If you must carry on the discussion, use email or PMs.

6. Talking about Moderation

This is extremely boring. If you must do it, do it on a PM to the Admin guys, or whoever. Please don't clog up the board asking questions about things. We will be quite open with you about why any action has been taken. If an explaination is on a public thread, please do not continue the discussion. See 5 above.

7. Personal Arguments

Where is the best place to have a public spat? Anywhere but here. We are here to talk about books and whatnot. If someone upsets you, for whatever reason, either take it off the board or contact an admin. Don't post any more about it, or start an argument. It will only be deleted.

8. Being an Arsehole

Whenever you post, consider whether your comments could reasonably be seen as arrogant, aggressive or combative, and adjust them accordingly. This is a forum for friendly discussion.
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 14:52   #2
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The 'crime' of posting something repetitive though, is simply nowhere near the Number One offence of...

2. Starting Threads for Things that Already Exist
Don't you mean Number 2 offence?
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 14:54   #3
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Doesn't he mean the no.1 offence as in the biggest, baddest most hideous offence ever, as opposed to the numbered list?
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Don't you mean Number 2 offence?
Well, it is a of a thing to do, I suppose!
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I'd initially followed amarie's reasoning, i.e. that, hierarchically speaking, Number One is the biggest and most important... but if we're on the slippery downward slope to bodily functions again, then, I guess, Number Two tends to mess things up a bit more... and give admin more freshening up to do...
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 15:04   #6
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'hierarchically' - that was the word I was desperately searching for!
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'hierarchically' - that was the word I was desperately searching for!
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using words like this is just the result of years living in France: they use words like hiérarchiquement all the time, and I find myself translating them...
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Top class suggestions.
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Default Re: Notes on Posting

I have added a couple more.
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That's a reasonable list there, Wavid. Might I suggest you also include a comment requesting no personal insults? I realise that you want to trust people to know what to post and when but -- just for those few occasions when people might be tempted to be rude -- having something in the guidelines might cause them to pause and reconsider just long enough to calm down and post something more considered instead.
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