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Old 28th Nov 2006, 23:46   #21
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Here is a sentence that is already grammatically correct, believe it or not:

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Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
Any guesses as to how this is so?
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 1:08   #22
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Could it be a reference to the fact that confused (buffalo) and intimidated (buffalo) buffalo from Buffalo (the port in west NY state) themselves confuse (buffalo) and intimidate (buffalo) other buffalo from the same port (Buffalo)?

ie Confused (Buffalo - capital B only because it starts the sentence), intimidated (buffalo) buffalo from Buffalo (Buffalo buffalo) in turn confuse (buffalo) and intimidate (buffalo) other buffalo from Buffalo (Buffalo buffalo).

Well, that's finally taught me that buffalo has double f and single l .
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 9:33   #23
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I can't read this first thing in the morning, it makes my brain all flubbufferbrefly...
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 9:45   #24
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Well I'm no help on this. The moment I tried to sort it out, the repetition of the word 'buffalo' made it start to seem such a ridiculous one. Ever do that? Struggle over the spelling or meaning or - as in this case - the sense of word in the sentence, and the word stops having any meaning at all and just looks like daft hieroglyphics?

Edit: In fact, all it's done, is put me in mind of that old song, Home on the Range which is now playing in a very annoying loop in the noodle. "Oh take me back h-o-o-me, where the buffalo ro-o-a-m, where the deer and the antelope play ...."
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Can I edit my original answer? The confused and intimidated buffalo from Buffalo cause confusion in ALREADY intimidated other buffalo from Buffalo.

ie adjective, adjective, proper noun, noun, verb, adjective, proper noun, noun.

(My interpretation uses all four meanings of the word buffalo: 1 - the animals, 2 - the proper noun for the port in NY state, 3 - the verb or adjective to confuse, 4 - the verb or adjective to intimidate.
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 10:54   #26
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ie adjective, adjective, proper noun, noun, verb, adjective, proper noun, noun.
i.e. in slightly pedantic linguistic format:

NG1 [adj + adj + N + N] + transitive verb + NG2 [adj + N + N]

(where NG = noun-group, and the proper noun functions adjectivally, as does "London" in "the London underground")

Syntactically, this is faultless.
But semantically I'm still confused: my COD gives "buffalo" as a transitive verb meaning, in American slang, "overawe, outwit"... but there's no entry for "buffalo" as an adjective... And I haven't got a US dictionary...

Leyla, I think there might just be slightly more to it on the semantic side... but 20/20 for the syntax.

Anyway, Kimberley, thanks for reviving this thread... and I have henceforth altered my 28th September entry to "Fruit flies like a peach"...

Must dash and do something constructive now...
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 10:59   #27
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Just noticed that nobody suggested anything back in September for:

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Time flies I cannot so uncertain is their flight
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 11:19   #28
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Is that the whole sentence, JfP?
If so, then the only way I can make sense of it is if there was a preceding sentence about people fleeing some time ago - hence 'Time flies. I cannot. So, uncertain is their (the aforementioned people's) flight. '
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Is that the whole sentence, JfP?
Leyla,
Yes, that's the whole...thing...
In other words, what you have makes sense as it is... BUT...
(hint ) there's more than one sentence.
Second hint : so far you've missed the most important thing...
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Could 'flies' be a noun? Is there such a variety of fly as a Time fly? In which case, if a preceding sentence had mentioned being able to predict the flight path of flies, this sentence could read 'Time flies I cannot (predict the flight of), so uncertain is their flight.'

I know I'm still relying on a preceding sentence here - my essential crutch!
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