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Old 21st Nov 2006, 22:58   #11
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Default Re: Book 30 - Cosmos by Witold Gombrowicz

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I've read it several times, and the first time aged 14.
m., I think I might have liked it better when I was 14. My son who is nearly 13 reads books and doesn't look for heavy meaning like we adults do. I like heavy meaning but not if I have to get a piece of wood hanging on a fence leading to murderous intentions. In my opinion, the narrator is psychotic, but I'm pretty sure that's not what I was supposed to get from this.
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Old 22nd Nov 2006, 3:37   #12
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I don't actually understand what postmodern lit is.
Oh me either, Ang, only that I usually don't enjoy it. It always feels circular, more like thinking, somehow disjointed and loose. And it maketh me head hurt to read. I crave the clear, poetic, straightforward narrative that just tells me a story instead of whipping it around me. I've always wondered if the postmodern style appeals to persons who think perhaps more analytically and in linear fashion. Thus the playful form of the postmodern novel tickles their neurons the way Willa Cather's plain as prairie style tickles mine. I used to feel stupid when I didn't understand Kundera, Marquez, even some Faulkner, and the like. Then I read 100 Years of Solitude and just went with it somehow and loved it. So, I don't want to miss something good in Cosmos, but it will almost certainly be a tough read.
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I wouldn't say it's a tough read, it's just a frustrating one. The premise is ridiculous. That can be good - take my 5 star rating for The Brief and Frightening Reign of Phil for example. There's a lot of meaning in the Phil book and yes, I get it, whereas my son ignored the "real" meaning and just enjoyed the humour.

I despise books which make the "hidden" meaning too obvious - that's an insult to me as a reader and a thinker. But I'm also a bit insulted by Cosmos which does the opposite. We're left to guess at the meaning of just about everything which leads to a lot of made up meanings which may or may not be the author's intention. I didn't mind the ridiculous premise until I got to the end and absolutely none of it was tied up.
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Is anyone else reading this book?
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Ooer, doesn't look like it! I think rick and m. have both read it before though... Guys?
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Ang, I've got it but haven't started it yet.
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We're left to guess at the meaning of just about everything which leads to a lot of made up meanings which may or may not be the author's intention. I didn't mind the ridiculous premise until I got to the end and absolutely none of it was tied up.
Err, actually quite a few things (and some rather weighty ones) get 'tied up' by the end.
I still haven't read the Borchardt translation either, but (hopefully) I'll get to it soon.
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I'm reading this and finding it playful. Just letting the images and narrator's train of thought wash over me, and I decided I wouldn't try to impose any attempts at controlling his tale. So far, interesting.
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Err, actually quite a few things (and some rather weighty ones) get 'tied up' by the end.
I guess I'm just a bit thick then.
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No!
I was being facetious. Aren't a great many things literally tied up, with string and the like?
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