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Old 28th Apr 2007, 21:57   #1
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If we had to vote for one musician who had contributed most to twentieth century music...
Oh but we do! We do!

Bowie? Sorry but no.

Steve Reich? Stravinsky? Benny Goodman? I'll have to go away and think about this... New thread coming up soon.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 17:06   #2
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Oh but we do! We do!

Bowie? Sorry but no.

Steve Reich? Stravinsky? Benny Goodman?
George Gershwin?
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George Gershwin?

ooh, yes ... and Ira for the lyrics.

"But Not For Me"; "Summertime"; "Someone To Watch Over Me."

Wonderfully experimental and versatile too in his period; imagine if G. hadn't died early at 38.

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I agree that he's a genius, idioteque. If we had to vote for one musician who had contributed most to twentieth century music, I'd vote for him.
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Tempting. I'm a bit of a sitar fan, so I'd maybe add Ravi Shakar too. Oh, and Dr. Dre.
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Tempting. I'm a bit of a sitar fan, so I'd maybe add Ravi Shakar too. Oh, and Dr. Dre.
Good call on Dre, there. I'm always a little confused over whether he or Prince Paul have been more influential. Certainly I prefer Prince Paul's work, but it's hard to quantify 'most influential' and Dre's stuff does tend to get a bit more coverage...

Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix and Buddy Holly all get a look in, of course, but as far as the most influential musician of the 20th century goes, I'd have to say I'd vote for a jazz musician. Ellington or Satchmo, probably. Mostly this is because jazz came chronologically before so many of the other major developments in 20th century popular music. It's fair to say that the style had direct, indirect, or even roll-on influences over blues, rock and roll, hip hop and so on, but those influences can't so easily be traced backwards when considering chronological orders as well as popularity.
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Good call on Dre, there. I'm always a little confused over whether he or Prince Paul have been more influential. Certainly I prefer Prince Paul's work, but it's hard to quantify 'most influential' and Dre's stuff does tend to get a bit more coverage...
I have no idea what you're talking about.

But if Dr Dre is that chap who sometimes gets namechecked by Eminem, can he really be a candidate for having contributed most to 20th century music, when he was only involved in it for the last ten or fifteen years of the 20th century?

A quick wiki later: I see Dr Dre was one of the members of NWA. Their album Straight Outta Compton always strikes me as hilarious because, while intended to reflect mean street life, it always makes me think of Old Compton Street. Which was probably not the intended connection.
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Not a musician, so technically outwith the terms of the poll, but I think Thomas Edison contributed more to 20th century music than anyone else by inventing sound recording. This took music away from the split between sheet music/folk music and into a realm where the performance became more important than the tune or song. People could have great musicians performing in their own homes and could "own" music in a way they never could before.
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Vaughan Williams - for kick-starting English music with his Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis and saving much early English folk music from extinction.
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Wow, those last two suggestions were the ones I was going to come up with. Seeing so much art in the last few days made me appreciate the luxury of 'ordinary' people having access to superlative works of art: and in music, Edison provided for this.

Choosing between artists of different musical genres is difficult too (and I hadn't a clue who some of the other names above were): but Vaughan Williams would be my classical choice for the folk collections and his own compositions and as musical editor for The English Hymnal.
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