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Old 16th Jan 2006, 1:25   #31
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I hope I get a chance to see this film. I have only heard good thingsabout it and reading this thread has made me so jealous. My nearest cinema is 15 miles away, only has two screens, tends only to get the obvious sellers for a week at a time and doesn't take phone bookings. I'll have to wait till the DVD comes out. You don't know how lucky you are... That's the one thing I really miss about cities: The cinemas.
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 3:32   #32
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...I didn't see it as a balls-out unassailable masterpiece.
But surely it is, balls-out at least.
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 9:02   #33
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My opinion chimes with John's - not that I've read the story, but I expected to be more caught up in the emotional content of the film. Part of me admired the director's restraint, but the greater part of me was willing him to render me a weeping mess with the injustice of it all.

It did look simply beautiful.
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 9:25   #34
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I think the fact I went with absolutely no expectations at all - having read not a single review, only being vaguely aware this was getting jokily billed as the gay cowboys film - probably helped enormously. I wasn't looking to 'weep like a baby' as John puts it. And far from always feeling sympathetic to the Jack and Ennis's star-crossed passion - at times I thought they were incredibly selfish. Look at the misery they inflicted on poor, poor Alma (Ennis's wife). Ennis putting her a distinct wretched second to his love and hunger for Jack. And yes, it was that very reined-in quality - the sense that the tumult of emotions broiling neath a crusty self-imposed cap of restraint were in danger of exploding at any given moment - that made it all the more powerful to me.

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Y'know - thinking about it just now, what so blew me away was not the Kleenex factor, but the bang-on integrity of the whole film. Lee's portrayal of Ennis's and Jack's love affair was, I think, fabulously faithful to Proulx's short story and avoided the temptation to deliberately go for the obvious tissue wringer. It was a just a fantastically brave and incredibly skillful piece of honest film-making. No cheap tricks. No compromises. And oh! I soooo admire that!

Now I'll stop with the eulogising, I promise - and just shut-t-f up about BB!

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Heavens, didn't we all head out to the same movie this weekend! Well me too, and again my thoughts are very much with Johns. Had read and been very moved by the story, (and also by Shipping News a couple of years ago - that's Proulx too isn't it?) and so thought I would be far more affected by the film than I was. I was moved certainly, and at the shirt scene to watery eyes, and saddened deeply by things they faced, but not as drawn in as I had thought - was this a lead on problem with such a rave review from HP, I doubt it but it didin't make it over .

Excellent acting and stunning cinematography as well - and where did Ledger get that voice? Took me a while to break through to understanding whay he was saying!
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Just wanted to mention that I loved the father-daughter stuff between Ennis and Alma Jnr.
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I think I agree with most people here, certainly John Self's review hits the nail on the head for me. So, rather than repeat what's already been said, I'm going to start being persnickety and annoying, and mention two rather less important points which I have nonetheless been thinking on.

1 - Was it just a little too long? I know the pace is important, and I feel it worked brilliantly for the most part, but that middle section dragged on a fair bit for me (probably because of the 'underwhelmed' feeling mentioned by John Self). I think all the feeling and sense of story could still have come across, at an appropriate pace, in a movie twenty minutes shorter.

2 - Rodeos are cool, 1970s shirts (and hair dye) are terrifying.

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One review I read enquired about the OOC'ness of the sheep - both their uniform size and Prozacced behaviour. Anyone can enlighten as to the accuracy of this?
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The OOCness of the sheep? Carps about hair dye (entirely appropriate in Lureen's case) and 1970's shirts (wtf else given the date it was set in?) .... Holy Moses and suffering saints! Am surrounded by heartless philistines and pedants! HP sinks weeping into her peach tea ......Whaaaaaaaa
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