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Old 14th Sep 2004, 16:05   #1
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Is the recent Batman stunt by Fathers 4 Justice a valid form of protest? Will the only thing that's changed here be security at the bloody palace?
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I thought it was a very typical form of British protest.

Other countries they throw bombs at politicians, here someone throws water at John Prescot.
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I think that they certainly brought publicity to their cause - whether it was positive or not remains to be seen. At the end of the day, it's the Home Secretary that these chaps need to change his mind - and making him and his employees look stupid is hardly the best way to go about it.

As for their cause - I don't really know much about it. Presumably there must be a reason why these men are not being given the access they feel they need to their children. I am sure there are instances of injustice in this field just as there are in any other where their is a bueraucratic process to be followed.
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As for their cause - I don't really know much about it.
Ex-blimmin'-actly. We know they do high profile stuff though.
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I think that they certainly brought publicity to their cause - whether it was positive or not remains to be seen. At the end of the day, it's the Home Secretary that these chaps need to change his mind - and making him and his employees look stupid is hardly the best way to go about it.
Well one thinks it wouldn't be too difficult to sneak past a blind nazi.
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I think that they certainly brought publicity to their cause - whether it was positive or not remains to be seen. At the end of the day, it's the Home Secretary that these chaps need to change his mind - and making him and his employees look stupid is hardly the best way to go about it.
Well one thinks it wouldn't be too difficult to sneak past a blind nazi.
Crikey!
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Ditto, Wavid and Amarie.

I would have preferred if if there was some valid means of this group publicising what their case is. I don't doubt that there are some fathers who are unjustly denied fair access (or access at all) but all the furore needlessly stops people listening to their cause. Whatever my opinions on the royal family, I'd be a bit concerned that an intruder got that far so quickly into an establishment that is supposedly protected.
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Well one thinks it wouldn't be too difficult to sneak past a blind nazi.
Crikey!
LOL.

You have to admit he isn't the most progressive of home secretaries.
There has been an active erosion of our civil liberties under this watch.


We have to appreciate that the media picks it's causes to promote on whim. Your average person on the street can't just decide to have a national debate about fathers rights or any other issue.
For right or wrong these stunts are using the media - of course it can then portray them at nutters, the government can use it as a stepping stone to something else, tut tut what if it was a terrorist - panic - we need new laws!!!
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You have to admit he isn't the most progressive of home secretaries.
Indeed. His visual acuity has perhaps less than nothing to do with it, however.
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