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pandop
22nd May 2004, 9:41
I am currently reading Not on the Label by Felicity Lawrence, a Guardian journalist, who has a real bee in her bonnet about the way our food is produced (review to follow) most of what she says is OK, but I got really annoyed this morning whe she was talking about in-season vegetables.

When I published a plea in The Guardian to buy more local food in season, I recieved a deluge of mail from people saying the no longer knew the seasons and needed a guide. I realized I needed one too, and rang round various farming and food experts, only to find they were pretty vague on the subject too

This really irritated me for two reasons:

1: I agree with her, a lot of people (especially I must say city dwellers) no longer know the seasons for food - or even where their food comes from - and this is bad thing.

However, this was nothing compared to 2:This woman is a journalist - and the only people she could think of to contact about growing seasons were food manufacturers and farming 'experts' (whe she has spent all of the book so far complaining that farming is too industrialised - of course that may be the point).
Could she not turn to the BBC? www.bbc.co.uk/gardening is a wonderous thing - as is the book I picked up for £2.99 in Discount Books in Leeds The Seasonal Kitchen Gardener

<shaking head in bewilderment>

I do think this is a symptom of something bigger - we are becoming increasingly removed from the world that supports us. I think this is a combined efforts of the supermarkets and the government, who between them are removing our ability to think!
An example of this is the recent pronouncement of Harriet Harmen, Patricia Hewitt and Margaret Hodge (here I agree with Lynda Lee Potter of the Daily Mail - why is this woman Minister for Children?) who said that women weren't interested in the War in Iraq, or the economy, but were only interested in schools and hospitals! Just what do they think pays for the schools and hospitals - it's the economy stupid!! I felt incredibly insulted when I read that ..... or perhaps my little girly brain didn't really understand them :evil:

Hazel
(who is not in a good mood this morning)

bakunin_the_cat
23rd May 2004, 15:23
I hate to agree with LLP or the Hate Mail on anything but when confronted such stupidity from a government minister, I really have no choice. Everything is politics. Even if some women were theoreticlly, primarily interested in schools and hospitals then that's politics. If the government sells off the health service to big business at huge cost to itself and calls it partnership, that's politics. If schools are forced to concentrate on grades and rankings and weighed down with buraucracy, that's politics.

To be honest though, in my own experience, I find women are often a lot more passionate about what is going on in the wider world then men. Women are more likely to stand up against injustice or go to a demo or get organised. Just look at CND, Amnesty International, The Greenpeace. Not to mention suffragettes, Women in Black and the others. No shortage of oestrogen in any of them. If anything it's testosterone that's in short supply.

pandop
24th May 2004, 10:50
As I said - I have never been so patronised in my life!

Just the other day another (female of course - why are the successful women in this government always the same) minister was accused of 'patrionising her audience to death'

Hazel

skanky
25th May 2004, 12:24
Aside from there being many ways of finding out in season fruit and vegetables, one simple method people (who use supermarkets) can use, is to only but fresh produce from their own country. You'll notice, for example that most of the apples in the supermarkets are from the other side of the world, at the moment.

This is not a fool proof method, but it does also mean that you're not buying stuff that's been shipped round the world. It is also a fairly simplified method and there are flaws.

pandop
25th May 2004, 19:00
I have enough trouble finding things that aren't pre-packaged in quantities to feed the five thousand (Morrisons are getting better, but even so) there is only one of me most of the time, as I don't have room for many visitors!

Thank heavens for Leeds Market .....

Hazel

nimway
3rd Feb 2005, 12:42
Is it that I am just old(er) I remember the apple season, rhubarb season, mushroom season, no pork in the months without and R in them, the skipping season, the chestnut season, and on and on, but then we had seasons.

My guide has been the Penguin Freezer Cookbook, by Rubinstein and Bush, which lists the foods in season by the month. An lately Hugh Fearnley-W, and any gardening book about vegetables will help.

John Self
3rd Feb 2005, 12:55
Yes, there's something crap about being able to get strawberries in January - and of course they taste shit. It's nice to be able to look forward to things being in season!

NottyImp
3rd Feb 2005, 13:02
Oh , come now. If the market wills it then it has to be good, doesn't it?

You'll be complaining about Shell making the biggest profit in British corporate history next (just a meagre £9.3 billion).

John Self
3rd Feb 2005, 13:05
Well, someone has to make the biggest profit in etc. etc. It could have been worse - at least it wasn't Esso/Exxon.

Jerkass
3rd Feb 2005, 14:45
I'm almost certain Exxon Mobil just turned in a quarterly profit of something like $25 billion (about £13b). So there you go.