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ono no komachi
18th Aug 2005, 16:21
1. Battleship Potemkin
2. Schindler's List
3. Metropolis
4. Spirited Away
5. The Third Man
6. Sunset Boulevard
7. City of God
8. 12 Angry Men
9. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington*
10. Don't Look Now

*Though I have seen the Simpsons remake where Mel Gibson goes crazy and spears the judge with the American flag.

Colyngbourne
18th Aug 2005, 16:33
Of those, I've seen Battleship Potemkin, Schindler's List, and Spirited Away (and the latter is one of my top films) but I'd agree with the others, and probably add Citizen Kane, one of those Robert de Niro films I never fancy watching (Raging Bull or Taxi Driver) and one of those Powell/Pressburger films that John was watching recently.

Stewart
18th Aug 2005, 16:34
12 Angry Men

To quote Humph on I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue:

Who could forget, during an episode of Give Us A Clue, the look on Una Stubbs' face as she watched Lionel Blair trying to pull off 12 Angry Men in under 2 minutes.

John Self
18th Aug 2005, 16:47
Love that line Blixa. I think the Jesse Jameson blogsters may have appropriated it once...

rick green
18th Aug 2005, 18:19
1. Battleship Potemkin
Yep, must see this.
2. Schindler's List
This too.
3. Metropolis
I did see it, but probably no in the right frame of mind.
4. Spirited Away
Nive, but not a rave.
5. The Third Man
Now we're talking!
6. Sunset Boulevard
I'm ready for my close up? I don't even know if I've seen the movie proper or only the final few scenes.
7. City of God
Not bad, but not essential.
8. 12 Angry Men
Hard to miss with Lumet.
9. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
Must see it. I quite like Capra.
10. Don't Look Now
You mean the Nic Roeg flic? With Don Sutherland? Whoa--that's a scary one. Up there with The Shining.

kumquat
18th Aug 2005, 19:37
yes to the third man.

i also think i ought to watch more old b&w's. i went through a phase of watching gregory peck movies. well i watched 2. casablance i think i should watch and there are a mountain of world cinema movies i want to see like three colours.

Stewart
18th Aug 2005, 19:56
i ought to watch more old b&w's...world cinema movies i want to see

One I can recommend is Last Year In Marienbad, a film from 1962 that I love yet can never summarise which is probably because it can never truly be described.

John Self
18th Aug 2005, 20:09
So, what's Last Year in Marienbad all about then Blixa?

From ono's list I've seen Schindler's List (pretty good) and The Third Man and Twelve Angry Men (both excellent).

Stewart
18th Aug 2005, 20:23
So, what's Last Year in Marienbad all about then Blixa?

Well, here's what it says on the back of the DVD:

One of the most enigmatic and distinctive films ever made, this astounding collaboration between director Alain Resnais [Night and Fog] and leading French novelist Alain Robbe-Grillet is a key moment in the French New Wave.

In a baroque spa hotel, an unnamed sophisticate [Giorgio Albertazzi] attempts to persuade a similarly unnamed woman [Delphine Seyrig] that they have not only previously met, but that they were also romantically involved and had planned to elope together. The woman recalls no such encounter and so begins a sensual and philosophical examination of the undertainty of truth.

Strikingly composed and beautifully shot in Cinemascope by Sacha Vierny, Last Year In Marienbad hypnotically merges chronology to radically blur the boundaries of reality and fantasy. A seductive and utterly fascinating cinematic puzzle, the film has been astounding audiences for over forty years.

It's certainly a puzzle. The three main characters are named only by an initial (A, M, and K, if I remember correctly) and they are in a hotel in Marienbad, Czechoslovakia. One is guy mentioned on the DVD, on is the woman, and the other is her husband who she is there with. The whole movie is a mix of memory, false memory, and action which is completely blurred as he tries to job her memory about how they met a year ago in Marienbad. Or was it elsewhere? She spurns his advances. No, I don't remember you. And he tries other approaches.

The lines start getting blurred when they can be having a conversation, he in a suit and she in a black dress but when she stands up to leave the camera watches her walk away from the tabls and down the hall wearing a white dress. One minute the conversation is on the veranday, then he answers the question she asks almost as soon as she asked it but they are walking through the garden. Sometimes people are frozen and sometimes not. Sometimes they do voiceover while sometimes they actually speak for themselves.

Artwank and great fun, too.

rick green
18th Aug 2005, 23:01
I saw it years ago and thought it terribly boring. I'm sure I was way too young & unsophisticated to appreciate the subtleties. Definitely one I'd watch again. I liked Resnais' Hiroshima Mon Amour & Night & Fog, both of which I saw more recently.

Stewart
19th Aug 2005, 9:21
I saw it years ago and thought it terribly boring.

I remember when I first saw it and, while I can understand the boring sentiment, I just found it totally enchanting. I had no idea what was going on and still don't but the settings are beautifully wrought yet eerie in the stillness.

I'll need to watch out for the other Resnais films. I'd seen Last Year In Marienbad on Film Four World when that channel existed (don't know why they ever got rid of it) and was pleasantly surprised on a drunken Saturday afternoon when I staggered into an independent CD retailer and found it sitting there in the DVD section. I hadn't even been able to find it on Amazon after months of trying.

John Self
7th Apr 2006, 12:28
Don't Look Now is free with the Observer this Sunday. So soon you'll have no excuse for not having seen it, ono!

ono no komachi
7th Apr 2006, 12:38
Actually, I've now seen four of my original list, those four being:

Schindler's List

Spirited Away

12 Angry Men

Mr Smith Goes to Washington

ScreenSelect is now my favoured method of repairing filmic omissions; since I'm paying for it anyway I probably shan't go for the Observer free offer. Thanks for the thought though!

Daveybot
7th Apr 2006, 14:16
3. Metropolis
Boy it's a corker, this one. Though not really if you're after characters or plot, I fear. What really makes it fascinating to me is that it's so old, so incredibly advanced for its time (it nearly bankrupted the studio at 5 million marks - in 1927, no less!), and no-one can particularly agree on which version to even watch! - about 20% of it has been lost forever through fire damage, chopping up, editing, and so forth.

I guess what's so interesting is not the film itself but the story of its creation and the incredible leap forward it made for cinema as a whole. It's a great film to talk about, a great film to look at, but not necessarily a great film to sit down and actually watch. Well, not for everyone's tastes, at any rate. Personally I love it - the architecture is just incredible and without it we'd never have got Bladerunner, Brazil, or any of that crowd.

Of course, another thing which I believe sets this film out from the rest in your list is that it's now old enough to sit happily in the public domain. You can just download it. I once downloaded it from the Internet Archive, but there seems to be a problem with its page there now, so instead I point you to this (http://www.publicdomaintorrents.com/nshowmovie.html?rstitle=Metropolis) page, which provides links to a lot of handy torrents.

John Self
7th Apr 2006, 14:56
it's now old enough to sit happily in the public domain

Surely not? Copyright lasts for 70 years after the death of the copyright holder. Fritz Lang (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000485/) died in 1976, so if the copyright lay with him then it wouldn't be in the public domain until 2046. More likely though that the studio or its legal successors own the copyright, which means it may never lapse. So careful, Palimpsesters, before you buy into Daveybot's grey-market Bit-torrenting!

EDIT: I was right the first time. From UK Copyright Service (http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law):

Films
70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last principal director, author or composer dies.

If the work is of unknown authorship: 70 years from end of the calendar year of creation, or if made available to the public in that time, 70 years from the end of the year the film was first made available.

Digger
7th Apr 2006, 15:25
I fear I'm going to get raised eyebrows.... I think I should probably have watched the Godfather!

Daveybot
7th Apr 2006, 16:56
Surely not? Copyright lasts for 70 years after the death of the copyright holder. Fritz Lang (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000485/) died in 1976, so if the copyright lay with him then it wouldn't be in the public domain until 2046. More likely though that the studio or its legal successors own the copyright, which means it may never lapse. So careful, Palimpsesters, before you buy into Daveybot's grey-market Bit-torrenting!

EDIT: I was right the first time. From UK Copyright Service (http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law):
That's a very good point.

Hmmm.

Hang on, I'm sure we had a lecture about this film back in my undergrad degree, and it definitely included speak of it being in the public domain. Certainly you're right - it isn't old enough for that, but maybe it was dedicated into the public domain perhaps.

I'm gonna go hunt for more info on this. I can't believe the Internet Archive would have hosted it without the relevant permission...

Daveybot
7th Apr 2006, 17:11
Hey this really is interesting. From what I can gather, the film had been in the public domain, but its copyright status was reinstated a few years ago (1998 according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%281927_film%29#endnote_copright)) in order to make its restoration economically viable. Makes sense, I guess!

Oh, and Metropolis is no longer public domain; its copyright was reinstated under GATT a few years ago (hence the "authorized" tag). Best regards, Mark Zimmer, Reviewer at Digitally Obsessed.com 1/29/03
I first saw it back in 1999, which would explain the whole 'its in the public domain' statement by the film society, and I must say you had to overlook the awful image quailty and terrible 1980s elevator music soundtrack.

So - there's a new remastered version (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007L4MJ/qid=1144426491/sr=1-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-3741581-0192106?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=dvd&v=glance&n=130) out using the original 1927 score, and it seems there's some debate over whether it should be watched at 20fps, 24fps, or 26fps. At any rate, I'd imagine we now would no longer want to watch the public domain prints (still floating around oin VHS and no doubt the basis of the ones I've previously seen available in various places online - though they were mercifully silent!) because frankly the visuals won't be nearly as clear as in the more recently remastered (and now officially 'authorized' version.)

...Or something like that. Well, you learn something new every day!

JunkMonkey
7th Apr 2006, 19:01
Not seen: Battleship Potemkin, Schindler's List, City of God.

Potemkin - I know I should. But then I have never seen The Seven Samuri or La Strada either.

Doubt if I ever will see Schindler's List as it was directed by Spielberg. Can't stand his movies. Gave up even trying to like his stuff after A.I.

What's City of God? and why should I have seen it? (off to IMDB to look it up).

Metropolis has long been a favourite (hence my avatar) I would loved to have seen the origonal full length version. Before the American distributers hacked it to bits.

gil
8th Apr 2006, 17:11
Junkmonkey: I think you may be wrong about Schindler's List. AI was, indeed, a heap of dingos' kidneys, but Schindler was really well done, except for the mawkish bit at the end, which rather spoils the experience. Incidentally, Saving Pte Ryan had the same kind of mawkish end.

Battleship Potemkin can be downloaded these days. I can't remember quite where, but I've got a note of it somewhere. Don't get too excited, though, it's a bit creaky compared with Ivan the Terrible and other Eisentein movies.

Colyngbourne
8th Apr 2006, 17:58
I might possibly be the only person here who liked A.I. then...(even the supposedly nauseating ending, too)...

maxivida
9th Apr 2006, 12:03
Digger, The Godfather has just been proclaimed the second best screenplay of all time (Casablanca being the first). It's a classic, you should see it. One of the films with the most satisfying endings ever! 8)

chillicheese
9th Apr 2006, 12:21
glad to see proclamations of greatness for casablanca (my all time no.1). Godfather is as essential as avoiding A.I. - as Lisa Simpson would say , "Euuuughhh"

m.
9th Apr 2006, 12:44
:-? You know somehow I'd managed to avoid A.I. so effectively that my mind was blank till I googled a couple of minutes ago. Ha. I thought I was more or less au courant as to the big productions of the last 20 years even if I don't have the intention to see them...

Daveybot
9th Apr 2006, 13:26
Don't Look Now is free with the Observer this Sunday. So soon you'll have no excuse for not having seen it, ono!
Just went and got my copy this morning. I'd never been to Italy until 2004, when I ended up going four times! I ended up in Venice on two of these occasions, and absolutely everyone I was with just kept talking about this film to the point where I was beginning to think I'd been sinning all these years for not having seen it yet. I'm not sure when I'll get around to watching it, but very much looking forward to ending my years of bad behaviour when it finally does get popped into the old DVD player...

Now, if they can just give us Death In Venice next week, I'll finally have caught up with the various movies I should have seen before my visits...

JunkMonkey
9th Apr 2006, 22:27
I think my patience with A.I. died very early on in the movie* when at the 'circus', or what ever it was called, where the robots were destroyed for entertainment, one of the victims was dissolved with some fantasticly corrosive acid - that was poured onto it from a tin bucket! That just pushed my "Oh for fucks sake!" button for the last time. Most of my time watching the movie was spent trying to work out whether Jude Law really didn't blink when on camera or if they CGIed his blinks out.

Don't Look Now has been sat in my TBW pile for ages now. I saw it when it first came out. I just can't bring myself to watch it again. I have two daughters aged 4 and 2. I don't think I could get past the opening sequence.

and Casablanca just gets better everytime I see it. It was the first VHS I owned and the first DVD.



*It was probably quite late on in the movie, but as the damn thing just went on for so long it just felt, in retrospect, like it was early on.

amner
10th Apr 2006, 10:03
I liked A.I.

...but anyway. And Casablanca is a magic movie, I concur with all here!

wrongbutton
9th Jun 2006, 23:38
1. Battleship Potemkin
2. Schindler's List
3. Metropolis
4. Spirited Away
5. The Third Man
6. Sunset Boulevard
7. City of God
8. 12 Angry Men
9. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington*
10. Don't Look Now

*Though I have seen the Simpsons remake where Mel Gibson goes crazy and spears the judge with the American flag.
I would agree with this list since I haven't seen any of them either.

Mind you, some I haven't heard of either, so I s'pose I should go off and look, or add them to my Amazon basket, or something...

kaninaki
14th Jun 2006, 21:20
1. Battleship Potemkin
2. Schindler's List
3. Metropolis
4. Spirited Away
5. The Third Man
6. Sunset Boulevard
7. City of God
8. 12 Angry Men
9. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington*
10. Don't Look Now

*Though I have seen the Simpsons remake where Mel Gibson goes crazy and spears the judge with the American flag.

I've only seen Spirited Away on this list. I saw it with my partner's kids who'd already seen it on DVD, but couldn't see it through to the end because it scared the s*** out of them. So my partner and I watched it with them so we could 'talk them through it'. In that context (kids flick) it is an awesome experience. Just stunning. Well worth seeing. Unique and inspired. A nice lesson for both kids and adults. The kids loved it because in the movie the kid is informed and aware and the adults are just lost.

Peronel
15th Jun 2006, 8:52
"Spirited Away" was awesome, if you haven't yet you should see the other Studio Ghibli films, particularly "Howl's Moving Castle." These are good to show to kids as they give a different cultural viewpoint to your regular Disney film, but still have adventurous storylines to keep them happy

Colyngbourne
15th Jun 2006, 9:51
I'm a big Miyazaki fan and mad about both these films (and the book HMC) - we have reviews here for 'Howl' and other Miyazaki's generally (http://palimpsest.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1391) and here for 'Spirited Away' (http://palimpsest.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=173)

Kimberley
23rd Aug 2006, 12:45
I didn't know "Don't Look Now" was regarded as a must-see film by anyone. I caught it once on late night TV when I wasn't expecting it and was almost too frightened to get out of my chair to go to bed.

My biggest crime as far as hving not seen something is concerned is Citizen Cane. I own the DVD. Twice, I've tried to watch it and ended up with a migraine half way through. Now I start to suspect an approaching aura as soon as I consider putting it on again.

Bricklane
27th Aug 2006, 10:16
Damm, who kick me out of the line. Type again.

Mine: (Dah, why got excited whenever I want to relpy a post:-?)

Solyaris by Andrei Tarkovsky*****
Fitzcarraldo by Werner Herzog *****

Tuvalu by Veit Helmer (its photograph was said to be interesting)
The double life of veroniqu by Krzysztof Kieslowski
Je suis vivante et je vous aime by Roger Kahane
Pierrot le fou by Jean-Luc Godard
La Chinoise
Prenom Carmen
Beyond the clouds / Al di la delle nuvole by Michelangelo Antonioni and Wim Wenders
Smultronstallet /Wild strawberries by Ingmar Bergman
Le Papillion

*****topest:razz:

Gargandi snilld/ Screaming Masterpiece by Ari Alexander Ergis Magnusson
Nostalghia/ nostalgiya by Andrei Tarkovsky

13 altogether. Have you seen or heard about some of these movies? And your comment? Recently I have discovered two directors that interest me, Godard and Herzog. Would like hear your opinion about them.

oh, by the way, I have a little question but don't know where to put it. Ermm, I like the song in the final part of the movie, Man on Fire. Is there anyone here who can tell me who is the singer and/or where I can find some other songs of its similar style??

JunkMonkey
27th Aug 2006, 19:00
Try looking here Bricklane:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0328107/soundtrack

rick green
28th Aug 2006, 1:49
13 altogether. Have you seen or heard about some of these movies? And your comment? Recently I have discovered two directors that interest me, Godard and Herzog. Would like hear your opinion about them.


Are these films you have seen and rate 5 stars, or haven't seen but imagine rate 5 stars?
Fitzcaraldo is the only one I have seen. I love Herzog and Fitz is definitely one of the best. It is slightly more optimistic than Kaspar Hauser: Everyman for Himself and God Against All :shock: or Aguirre: Wrath of God. The later is also an Amazonian adventure with Klaus Kinski in the lead--highly recommended as a companion piece to Fitzcaraldo. This year I've seen two of Hezog's documentaries: Grizzly Man (very good--I think Mr. Self also liked it) and Wheel of Time. Invincible is another excellent recent film by Herzog. I described it poorly here (http://palimpsest.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=347&highlight=invincible+herzog), but it is really a wonderful film. So yes, Herzog is great--one of my favorite directors.

I've only seen one film by Tarkovsky: Andrei Rublev (http://palimpsest.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=758&highlight=andrei+rublev). It is nothing short of a masterpiece. I would love to watch more of his films.

And I've only seen one film by Godard: Alphaville. It is an interesting movie, bu tnot a greatone. The thing I liked best about it was it's shoestring-budget inventiveness. If I recall, it might be classified as a dystopian thriller with a poetic heart.

Kieslowski is another world-class director in my opinion, but I haven't seen The Double Life of Veronique. Some of us were discussing him here (http://palimpsest.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=566&highlight=Kieslowski). Please let us know how you like these films once you see them, Bricklane.

Bricklane
28th Aug 2006, 7:55
Are these films you have seen and rate 5 stars, or haven't seen but imagine rate 5 stars?

Kieslowski is another world-class director in my opinion, but I haven't seen The Double Life of Veronique. Some of us were discussing him here (http://palimpsest.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=566&highlight=Kieslowski). Please let us know how you like these films once you see them, Bricklane.


Ah..my bad expression. Those 2 with 5 stars are the films that I most wanted to see, on the very top of my ought-to-have-seen list. I read an introduction about kinski the other day, which urged me to know more about this 'madman'. (Have come to be more in to the crazy stuff.)

Rick, where are your pictures that taken in London this May when you guys met togther moved to? Maybe I should ask amdin. Anyway, what I have intended to say was that I loved one of the photos you took and pasted here at palimpsest crescent. It was an excellent shot that could lift the viewers' feeling. (But I don't know where it is now. Was deleted?) A picture of a most beautiful smile. (Pity that I don't know who is the lady here in that picture. Maybe Col? Ono? Don't know ah...:-() Hehe, so many questions.


Junk monkey,谢谢. ありがとう。Thx.

The double life of Veronique @
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101765/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101765/)

やれ、やれ、このlinkね. Let me see...Is it this way [http//=]....[/]?

John Self
28th Aug 2006, 10:19
The only Herzog film I've seen is Grizzly Man, which is probably unrepresentative, as it's mostly comprised of documentary footage shot by someone else. Herzog himself does appear in it though, and narrates it, and I got a strong impression of him as a gloomy but likeable and humane figure.

rick green
28th Aug 2006, 23:54
Rick, where are your pictures that taken in London this May when you guys met togther moved to? I guess it wasn't me, Bricklane. I haven't experienced the joys of a Palimpsest Big Day Out. Florida is a long way from England. ;-)
I may have posted a picture from my brother's wedding which was about the same time. Can't remember. Anyway you might be able to find the picture on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rick_green/). I think all of the BDO pics are up there somewhere. Try looking on some of the other Palimpsesters' pages (eg. John, ono, amner, Digger, etc.).

P.S. I noticed that gil watched The Double Life of Veronique not long ago. I think he gave it ***00.

gil
29th Aug 2006, 11:23
P.S. I noticed that gil watched The Double Life of Veronique not long ago. I think he gave it ***00.This is true. It was excellent and fascinating. In retrospect, I award it ****0.

ono no komachi
3rd Jun 2010, 10:58
Heigh-ho, I'm down to 4 from the original list (admittedly I cheated by removing City of God without seeing it, partly because it was on TV recently and I didn't even record it, so I can't be *that* motivated about seeing it).

1. Battleship Potemkin
2. Metropolis
3. Sunset Boulevard
4. Don't Look Now

So to make the list back up to 10:

5. La Strada
6. A Bout de Souffle
7. The Bicycle Thieves
8. This Sporting Life
9. Barry Lyndon
10. The Deer Hunter

It seems noticeable to me that these are all pre-1980. Are there fewer must-sees from the last few decades or is it just that there's such a huge back catalogue of earlier films?

Anyone else have an updated view on films they feel are worthy of their attention but for one reason or another haven't got around to seeing?

Beth
3rd Jun 2010, 12:51
Oh boy, have I ever!

My Darling Clementine
The Rules of the Game
Fanny and Alexander
Starting out in the Evening
The Seventh Seal
2046
Frozen River
Moon
Solaris (1972)
and a 30 minute Laurel and Hardy titled Big Business, proving impossible to find

ono no komachi
3rd Jun 2010, 14:11
I'm ashamed to say the only one of those I've seen is Moon, which is very good ideed.

But the mention of a classic Western reminds me that I've seen neither Bad Day at Black Rock nor High Noon. Glaring omissions, both.

JunkMonkey
3rd Jun 2010, 14:48
I have a huge stack of DVDs that were too cheap to ignore (curse you, eBay!). Lots of them on the Artificial Eye and Tartan labels. Art-house stuff. I also have a lot of DVDs with very lurid covers. Every night after I've finally got the kids to bed and flop down to watch something andhave this short but fierce internal debate:

Rashômon or Android Apocalypse? Hmmmmm.


But that is not addressing the issue:

Films I have seen but I think everyone should see include:
Mr Arkadin (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048393/) (aka Confidential Report) a real fever-dream of a movie with Orson Welles at his best.
and
Koyaanisqatsi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085809/)

ono no komachi
3rd Jun 2010, 15:51
I have a friend who's tried to convince me to watch Koyaanisqatsi. I'm sort of scared of it; that my horribly conventional brain won't be able to cope with a film completely without dialogue, and that you have to be massively intellectual to appreciate the music of Philip Glass.

John Self
3rd Jun 2010, 15:55
I saw it years ago, ono, as part of the Belfast Festival (when the Belfast Festival was still any good), where Philip Glass and his orchestra played the score live over a showing of the film. It was great, not an intellectual challenge at all, and his music is very accessible (even to my tone-deaf ears) - kind of Michael Nyman-ish.

amner
3rd Jun 2010, 20:35
Confidential Report is aces...I'd also urge you to see Bad Day at Black Rock (great title), ono.

bill
4th Jun 2010, 2:40
So I was reading some of these posts, feeling proud (for some strange reason) because I'd seen a number of other people's glaring omissions. And then I stopped, and thought, "Oh. Well, what about..."

For a Few Dollars More
8 1/2
Tokyo Story
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Gun Crazy
Deep Red
Cries and Whispers
Metropolis
Nosferatu (Murnau)
Sunrise

And quite a few more.

Beth
4th Jun 2010, 4:09
I fear I'm going to get raised eyebrows.... I think I should probably have watched the Godfather!

Have you seen it yet, Digger?

ono no komachi
4th Jun 2010, 8:32
I'd heartily recommend The Outlaw Josey Wales, bill.

I feel another top 10 coming on...

amner
4th Jun 2010, 9:37
I'll back ono up on Josey Wales. It's easily the best of those elegaic Eastwood movies. It is, before the term was ruined by talent-spotter TV, 'a real journey'.

Looking at you a tad askance here, bill, re: Nosferatu!

Digger
4th Jun 2010, 9:40
Have you seen it yet, Digger?

Nope... tee hee!

bill
4th Jun 2010, 13:04
Looking at you a tad askance here, bill, re: Nosferatu!

I'm not proud of it. It mainly has to do with my general nervousness around silent movies, about which I'm also not proud. I've seen and enjoyed silent movies in the past, but I don't generally go out of my way to see them. I just need to make more of an effort.

ono no komachi
4th Jun 2010, 13:15
general nervousness around silent movies,

I have this too, but Nosferatu is one where I pretty much forgot the fact, so absorbing was it.

It makes a great double billing with Shadow of the Vampire (http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0189998/), which is not itself exactly a masterpiece, but I thought was good fun.

Colyngbourne
4th Jun 2010, 13:26
I agree, ono. Nosferatu is fascinating and creepy and chilling all on its own, but Shadow of the Vampire dramatises it brilliantly, broadens it and gives it a bit more personality.

I still haven't seen Sunset Boulevard or Mr Smith Goes to Washington, but I have since caught up with Casablanca, Citizen Kane, Brief Encounter, Don't Look Now and a couple of others, which I'm pleased about.

I think I would add some of the westerns in ono's Top 10 also, and Babette's Feast to my list.

beer good
4th Jun 2010, 14:30
Mental note: re-watch both Nosferatus and Shadow of the Vampire back to back to back. I love all three, but it would be fun to do a more thorough comparison.

bill
4th Jun 2010, 15:09
That's the other thing: I've seen both Shadow of the Vampire and Herzog's Nosferatu, but not the original.

JunkMonkey
5th Jun 2010, 1:21
Just to drag this thread down to the level where I feel really comfortable - I've just added Rollergator (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0207061/) to my perverse list of movies I must see before all copies are destroyed by angry mobs of cinema lovers.

Rollergator stars Joe Estevez (Brother of Martin Sheen, uncle of various Estevezes, and star of Blood Slaves of the Vampire Wolf), the story centres around a rapping, miniature purple alligator being hunted by a skateboarding ninja. Fortunately he is rescued by a female roller-blader who wears a sports bra and cutoffs.

It also, apparently, boasts one of the most annoying scores since The Mesa of Lost Women.

I mean, who wouldn't want to watch that?

bill
5th Jun 2010, 2:43
I would also like to watch that.

ono no komachi
29th Jun 2010, 10:56
A friend has just very kindly offered me a DVD of A Bout de Souffle, which they have spare after just acquiring a comprehensive Jean-Luc Godard boxed set. Bingo!

bill
29th Jun 2010, 17:50
And I have Nosferatu winging its way to me right now, via Netflix.

Colyngbourne
29th Jun 2010, 18:07
And I've put Cocteau's Orphee on my LoveFilm list.

lurgee
29th Jun 2010, 22:07
The Maniac Murnau/Mad Max Schreck original or the Howling Herzog/Krazy Kinski remake?

Kinski appeared in a sort-of sequel to the Herzog remake, involving a sort of Hammer House Of Horror reincarnation schtick - Do you dispose of Jewish vampires with a sctake? - but from memory it consists mostly of beautiful women taking their clothes off to be humped by the vampiric Kinkski (sic). Top film, in other owrds.

bill
30th Jun 2010, 1:37
The original. I've seen the Herzog/Kinski, and it's one of my favorite movies. The one you describe does sound pretty intriguing, though.